Return of the Velodog!

The other day I picked up some .22 Hornet brass intending to make some .251 TCR cartridges. On my way out of Pinto’s Guns Chris asked, “Going to make some Velodog ammo?”

“Nah,” I responded. “Going to make some .251 TCR.”

He nodded, I left and went home. When I got there I thought about it. Making Velodog cartridges from tube and turned down .25 ACP cartridge bases is a bloody lot of work and the results are not really optimal; the tube is just a bit to thick. How would I go about making .22 Hornet into 5.5mm Velodog?

The Velodog with a single round of ammunition.

First I need to straighten the cartridge. It needs to be approximately 5.7mm outside diameter. It occurred to me to try my 5.56mm sizing die. I mounted my .357″ ram, screwed the die into the press and had a go. The result wasn’t bad, but the ram would only go so far into the die. OK, I needed a narrower ram to mount in the press.

Here’s the new ram and die mounted in the press with a case ready to run through the die.
On top is the new, tapered ram. Below is the steel ram I use for swaging .357 bullets.
The standard .22 Hornet case (top) with the case after running through the die.

I grabbed some 1/2″ round brass stock, chucked it up into the lathe and got to work. I used brass because I wanted the manufacture to be quick so I would have more time to refine the design. I put a nub on the face to sit in the primer-pocket to keep the case centered. I tried it in the press and the results were good. I have to remove the case by inserting a rod through the top of the die and tapping it out. As expected it left a fat area around the base of the cartridge next to the rim.

The .223 sizing die. On the upper right is the ram. In the center is a .22 Hornet case. To the right of that is a case after passing through the die. To the right of that is the case with the base turned down to size and cut to length, Furthest right is a loaded cartridge.

So now I had a mostly .22 caliber cartridge. I got a .224″ rod and mounted it in the lathe, slipped the cartridge on to it and pinned it in place with the live center in the primer pocket. I carefully cut away the thick ring of material in front of the rim, then turned the rim down to approximately .300″. I did fifteen cartridges this way.

The cartridge mounted in the lathe. Making these is labor-intensive, but not as hard as making them from tube and .25 ACO cartridge bases.

I used a divider to mark the overall length of 1.15″, then cut the cases off with a cut-off wheel in the Foredom tool. After deburring it was time to load a cartridge… umm, OK; how?

The first problem is priming the case. I don’t have a shell-holder that will work with the reduced rim. In the end I pressed the primer in place with my thumb and seated it with a wooden dowel and a soft-hammer.

OK, load data… uh… there doesn’t seem to be any. I found a forum post where someone had opened an old case and it contained 1.7gr. of powder of an unknown type. OK, Unique was actually around when this cartridge was in common use. I figured I’d try 1.5 grains of Unique. Bullet? Easy-Peasy- I pulled bullets from .22 LR cases. These bullets are nominally 40gr., but they actually weigh .38gr. Pretty close to the 34gr. weight of the original jacketed bullets used in the cartridge.

I don’t have reloading dies for 5.5mm Velo Dog, and the only other dies that work are .22 CCM… which I also don’t have. So I simply pushed the bullet in against the workbench until it was fully seated, and it was too tight to remove or twist. Seemed good enough, and it fit in the chamber. Time to try it. OK, it worked. it went bang and the bullet sank into the gel. I don’t have a velocity for it; the Chronograph has gone wonky because the illumination on one end has gone out. I’ll need to replace some parts. I loaded four more cartridges and fired them into the gel. Average penetration for three shots was 7-1/2″, and one shot fell far short at about 6″. All the bullets tumbled on impact and came to rest base-forward.

The four wound-tracks in the gel. Not a great picture, so I indicated the bullets with red dots. The track on the far right shows the bullet bounced back in the gel, so I have indicated the end of the track rather than the bullet.

All the tracks indicate the bullets were traveling straight on impact. A recovered bullet shows clear rifling marks, so it appears they were stabilized in the bore.

Rifling marks are clearly visible on the recovered bullet.

Ignition was inconsistent; two of four cartridges required multiple strikes before they fired. Federal primers are relatively soft, so I attribute this to the gun rather than the ammunition. Upon examination the un-sprung floating firing pin seems rather short; if I were planning on firing this gun regularly I might address that. I don’t expect to, so likely I’ll just leave it alone.

I think I will spring for the .22 CCM reloading dies though; the Velodog’s younger sibling intrigues me. I might have to chamber a gun for it and experiment.

Michael Tinker Pearce, 6 January 2021


Coming Soon…

I got started on this tumbling bullet thing by considering what could be done to improve the performance of bullets from short-barrel guns with relatively low velocity. That’s yielded some interesting results, and this week I’ll be sending some bullets to a fellow to test on feral hog carcasses.

Next .38 testing for me will be the 158gr. bullets through the 1-3/4″ barrel of my custom Taurus Model 85, but I need to recast the block again to get good photos of the wound-tracks.

Custom Taurus Model 85 with a 1-3/4″ barrel. Should be an ideal test gun.

As regular readers will know I also tested a bullet in .32 S&W Long, again with interesting results, and I got to thinking, ‘What other rounds have trouble getting enough penetration with expanding bullets?’ I thought I might see what I could do with .380 ACP.

I pulled out some 90gr. TMJRN and adjusted the swaging die until I got the shape i wanted. These load to .982 OAL, right on-spec for .380 ACP ball. They feed perfectly in my wife’s P238 Legion, and I’ll be using that for a test gun. Again, I need to wait for a ‘clean’ block of gel.

Linda’s Sig Sauer P238 Legion with some of the loaded BNFPs. These should be stepping out between 905-1000 fps. Will they tumble? I don’t know, but we’ll find out.

I have another, very different project in the works, but it’s not ready for prime-time yet. It’s going to take some time; it’s pretty involved.

I hope you all have a great 2021.

Michael Tinker Pearce, 4 January 2021

2021 and News of My World

Last summer my emails got messed up, and I haven’t been able to access my Patreon account for some time. Now on 1 January 2021 I suddenly have been able to straighten things out and have access again. It turns out several of you have been supporting me and I didn’t even know it! Thank you all very much- it means a lot.

As of December we’ve crossed the $100/month threshold, which means I’ll be making more shooting videos. I whined to Linda that I needed to start a new Youtube channel and she said, “Why? You’ve already got one…” OK, duh. I’ve shot a few ‘action’ videos of shooting to post here and other places, and you can find them here-

Future videos will be posted there as well. For now I’m planning on only doing videos to post here and other gun pages rather than having a ‘show.’ We’ll see how things progress. In the meantime I need to look into some equipment, and I while I don’t know what some of it is going to cost I feel a cringe coming on…

Interesting things coming up in 2021; there’s a project almost completed that’s carried over from last year. I wanted to finish it before now but, well… 2020.

In other news I bought some magazines for my Sig P-6 that turned out to be, frankly, cheaper than I’d want to bet my life on. But, acting on a whim, I discovered they would fit in my Beretta M1951 if I cut a notch for the handle-mounted magazine release. Which means they’d fit the Helwan .380 conversion…

My Maadi Helwan, which I converted to .380 ACP after the locking lugs peened. Of course the moment I did I discovered that quality replacement locking-blocks had become available… after I had bored out and sleeved the chamber, them reamed it for .380. Oh well, at least it’s not a paperweight…

I took one of the magazines apart and visited the Bin of Random Magazines at Ben’s Loans and bought a couple of .32 ACP magazines to cannibalize the springs. I modified the follower from the cheap magazine for the shorter cartridge, then soldered a brass spacer into the back of the magazine. Installing the modified follower and the spring from the .32 magazine gave me a functional .380 magazine for the Helwan.

You can see the brass spaced, and how it holds the cartridge in the proper position to feed. I may tweak the feed lips a bit, but it works pretty darn well already.

This is a big improvement over the cludged-together magazine I originally did for this gun. Yes, a 9mm magazine will still fit in the pistol, but a 9mm cartridge won’t fit in the chamber since I re-did it, so there’s no safety concern on that score.

So, how does it shoot? A little low, but recoil is minimal; it’s a very pleasant gun to shoot. The magazine holds nine rounds, and aside from a single stove-pipe on feeding it’s been reliable.

Shoots a little low, but that’s a respectable 7-yard mag-dump.

I think I need to make another of these magazines…

Anyway, Happy New Year to you and yours!

Michael Tinker Pearce, 1 January 2021